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Hello everybody and welcome back to me, because I've been on 5 days vocation...

Unfortunately, I see straight away that some things got out of control while i was away, like this "Password in 24 hours" thing.

To keep it short: Strong Sound did that because he wanted to share more exclusive stuff and he didn't want other people to leech it and spread his releases on other sites or in comments/mirrors.

so, it's actually not a bad thing, which he was forced to come to, because i wasn't able to handle the mirrors problem properly.


And now I'd like to announce my decision regarding the Mirrors poll:
As usual, I wanted to make everybody happy, so i decided to provide contributors with an option to disable mirrors module in their posts.

This way, Contributors who spent money to buy and share exclusive stuff (like DISCOVER), will be able to disable mirrors in their posts;
Option will be also used by those Contributors, who want to reupload their links by themselves.

Those Contributors who don't want to reupload their posts, will leave the Mirrors option untouched, so members+ will still be able to post mirrors.

As result, we all get what we wanted.

P.S. Contributors will receive a letter with updates and instructions.

next day UPD:
I'm surprised so many members, and even residents gone straight to comment crap, instead of reading the article completely and understand what's actually happening.

to prevent the "broken telephone" thing, I'm explaining the change in detail and replying some comments.

How about the poll?
It is exactly because of your votes I do not disable mirrors for all contributors. people who say "you don't count our opinion" are full of shit;
- When you saying that, it seems that you're not even using this site, just coming here to drop a load of crap in comments and spread your hate.

1. Mirrors on AudioZ are needed because original links might die;
2. If Contributors will keep their links alive, there is no need for Mirrors;
3. Since we give the option to disable mirrors to some contributors, they are taking the responsibility to reupload their links to mirrors that you choose.

- now, out of interest, go read comments from rico88 (1st page) just to see how reckless people can get.

the situation is very straightforward: either I do something about mirrors, or contributors will stop posting those exclusive releases at all.

...AudioZ stays on top for all this time exactly because we can adapt to changes and move forward.

I need Mirrors!
- No you don't! Once I make the changes, every contributor who disables mirrors will be forced to upload to certain "most popular" servers which you will choose later, so that even free users could download.
...and those mirrors will stay fresh forever.

do i still have to wait for Password in 24 hours?
- of course not! that shit only happened because i was away and couldn't control the site.

Replying to comments:
<!--QuoteBegin satan213 --> satan213
<!--QuoteEBegin-->You do know that $trong $ound uploads exclusively to premium sites, meaning you don't really get it for free. You have to buy a premium account. Normally that wouldn't be a problem, as long as you have a premium account on one of the sites he/she uses.

as i said, that's not gonna happen. we will force them to upload the way people can get it for free.

<!--QuoteBegin rico88 --> rico88
<!--QuoteEBegin-->Maybe SAINT gets a cut ($$$) from the uploaders, that could be an answer as well. There could be many answers I suppose. It does seem to come down to the fact the poll did not matter and SAINT chose to disregard the results

you're so full of shit. words can't express how wrong you are.

<!--QuoteBegin rico88 --> rico88
<!--QuoteEBegin-->There are always options though. You can get your downloads from somewhere else (let's face it there are many other places to find links and torrent files), or you can choose to ignore posts by some uploaders (like Strong Sound) who do things in a way that you may or may not like

yet another pointless comment from a person who doesn't see the whole picture.

good luck finding those exclusive releases made specially for AudioZ, on your P2P or elsewhere. even the scene teams leeching releases from us now.

and since you're so confident, i guess you won't be missing your Resident status.


to everybody else who haven't noticed, AudioZ became much more than just a software archive.

I see Future AudioZ as a platform for sharing your own releases. And that's where I'm heading.

<!--QuoteBegin bupper --> bupper
<!--QuoteEBegin-->1. as suggested in another post, boycott Strong Sound

although this sounds really brave and stuff, i seriously doubt any of you would see a new hot release from SS and say "no way, i'm not downloading his links"... that is such a rofl....

<!--QuoteBegin KbcTkb --> KbcTkb
<!--QuoteEBegin-->As I said a few days ago in a thread that disappeared, he explicitly chose to make AudioZ into a (very public) market where Contributors can come and make money out out of pirated software

that's not true.

and i'm not some kind of a businessman who makes some business models for AudioZ or anything.\
the time ratio i've spent on this site will never be paid enough with money.
you will think whatever you want, but AudioZ is not a commercial web-site and I'm not making for a living on it.

...can't stop wondering why some people saying stuff like if they know it

<!--QuoteBegin burninstar --> burninstar
<!--QuoteEBegin-->Thanks Saint for everything you do. My wish would be for AudioZ not to change. It worked well the way it was.

"There is nothing permanent except change".

<!--QuoteBegin EtherealVoice --> EtherealVoice
<!--QuoteEBegin-->So why funtime cannot delay the password when SS can? (assuming equality of all members on this site)

nobody allowed that.

<!--QuoteBegin tjlee87 --> tjlee87
<!--QuoteEBegin-->I know I'm just a lowly leecher here and most of you will probably ignore me anyway, but why should Strong Sound get a special treatment from SAiNT while there are number of audio scene groups and contributors that does it free for the benefit of the warez community?

they are all special to me;
yet there are no special treatment to anybody in person, rules apply the same way to everyone.

<!--QuoteBegin ric_bm --> ric_bm
<!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, as someone said the poll results have been disregarded no matter how convincing they were. All my respect to Saint and his hard work over the years to keep Audioz running, but I'm afraid this isn't a good decision

it is actually the only right decision which meets the needs of all users.


to everyone else - thank you for your support and understanding

comments

  Banned 16.05.2010 364
+157
@LordGaga --

you are always a friend here! I appreciate it.
"It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken"
  Resident 11.03.2012 1 46
+53
Well, when I first logged onto the site earlier today, I found that every single news story on the main page under the Recent Posts section had been posted by Strong Sound within a matter of minutes. Further more, nearly all of the uploaded content contained strong sound's little 24-hour pw scheme with one exception being a library which is already freely as it is, as well as some other library I had never heard of.

I can understand if someone decides to do the 24-hour password thing in a situation where they are sharing a huge new release that they had originally purchased, as they should at least get something in return for the money and risks they had invested. However, when it escalates to spamming the site with locked content, I believe they're doing a serious disservice to this site. I was fine with the Sonokinetic release, but now this is starting to get ridiculous.
  Resident 15.04.2012 7 111
+144
Ok I understand all, but want ask one question. What about people what would like to share something but all stuff their got is from here? As my self, I'm not rich person, and I love this site. I do feel some time like a leecher because you guys share stuff I don't. So my question is, what about people like me. I don't share to anyone stuff i've downloaded from here it could be problem in the future to get something I want ?

Sorry for my bad english.

My English is bad but who's give a fuck
  Resident 23.10.2010 392
+127
Not AudioZ. Not like this. What you can do is NOT download Strong Sounds shit, but that's way easier said than done.

They're aren't even 24 hours. More like 30+ hours.
  Resident 23.10.2010 392
+127
I can read the time properly, Phloopy. I stick with my original comment.
  guest -- 0
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I know I'm just a lowly leecher here and most of you will probably ignore me anyway, but why should Strong Sound get a special treatment from SAiNT while there are number of audio scene groups and contributors that does it free for the benefit of the warez community?
  Banned 16.05.2010 364
+157
so strange -- about an hour ago I was here and there were four pages to this thread and quite a few more comments. Now I come back and there are only 3 pages and fewer comments. I even refreshed the page, closed the browser, cleaned the cache, and still a page is gone. What's that all about?

@tjlee87 --

not ignoring you, and its a fair question. There could be a number of possible answers, maybe Weak Sound gives SAINT a cut from what he/she makes on the downloads, maybe they're old friends,... who knows??? It's odd because it doesn't seem characteristic of SAINT to be playing favorites like this and ignoring the same poll that he started, so I think something's going on. Whatever it is, it ain't too cool.
"It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken"
  Banned 13.05.2011 801 3875
+23577
wow GOSH! wow How much people writing something....usually the comments on posts are so deadly thin!!! Seems that suddenly folks find the time + will to reply!
rofl rofl rofl
I won't debate about SAiNT's decisions – i just say "thank you" for your patience & tolerance. In a nutshell: he is a sincere, good man. yes

  guest -- 0
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dude if you dont like the password thing dont download from them .. period yeah it sucks but bitching isnt gonna make then change there minds ... .... i feel like this they make money from it by posting i feel like fuck im a start buying and posting no passwords...... so when you see a person who uploads a post with no password appreciate it and thank them screw the rest of the money hungrys that with held with pass words
  guest -- 0
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I'm cool with the passwords but, why haven't I seen a mediafire yet?
  guest -- 0
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like every one says really contributors are stealing them selfs they didnt make the sample packs or vsts ... so at the end of the day you cant complain about what you spent to be able to up load you decided to upload and share now you want cash for a item you didnt create i buy vst and sample packs when there not available on any other sites and if i had the paintents to upload them i would and wouldn't worry about making money .. because i wasnt the actual person who created the pack or vst in the first place... contributors read my words you didnt make the stuff you brought it ... and maken doe from it good for you now dont be a sour ass and do p words .. mirrors im ok with disabling but p word shit has to go

Kookaboo: thank you for all your uploads seriously all are very good ones
  guest -- 0
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Audioz should go back to how it was ... plain and simple ...
  guest -- 0
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It was, until filesonic decided to screw itself over.
  guest -- 0
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Well, as someone said the poll results have been disregarded no matter how convincing they were. All my respect to Saint and his hard work over the years to keep Audioz running, but I'm afraid this isn't a good decision.
  guest -- 0
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in my opinion this is pure nonsense... I love audioz allot, but the password thingy is pure nonsense because all the other sites already posted the StrongSound stuff with the same message... when the password will be communicated it will appear on those websites also so I don't know how this could solve anything.

ps: there's been messages deleted from this thread... another uncool thing to do!I trust you'll get back on your feet audioz.
  Resident 10.08.2010 1 460
+93
this is the end of audioz...grovel people ....grovel.... this place is now no different from the shitload of other money making sites out there...when is the next step incidentally? ...selling DVDs with warezed and pirated material to justify your living expenses...cheers money makers...no wonder the warez world has gone to shit! hope you all choke on your $$$$

I'm glad most teams have stopped...no one should help your kind

and also to those who said here it was democracy....LOOOOOOOL ...democracy like in "what's your opinion people? ohh yeah...thanks for letting me know but now you can just piss off I have other plans" oh oh oh

mark,
ps: there's been messages deleted from this thread... another uncool thing to do!I trust you'll get back on your feet audioz.


not this thread only..it happens rather often as a matter of fact...a sad thing indeed
Both the eyes are one-sided. For the perfect balance, you need Shiva’s third eye :D
  guest -- 0
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So is Saint and/or Sound Strong going to comment on these 4 pages of posts? There is no way that either can pass quietly on this issue as it has the entire community fired up over the polls, Sound Strong and Audioz.
  Resident 10.08.2010 1 460
+93
as you're still hanging around, before leaving I thank for your work man.keys
keep up the binary DIY ^^ wink
Both the eyes are one-sided. For the perfect balance, you need Shiva’s third eye :D
  Moderator 21.01.2012 2373 16092
+159178
I wonder reading so many persons criticizing the fact that some uploader may get money from their uploads, and that it is possible that Saint get some money too.

Hey guys, WAKE UP where do you think your living?? People need money to eat, you know?

Do you have your own server? Do you how much it cost a year to maintain a site like this one?
Did you shared something that you bought here?

So , please stop weeping and do something

You react like babies, that think that freedom is I do what i want when I want, and the others do what i want when I want.

In this case freedom is you do what you want, may be you dont download every thing, from every poster. And posters they are free too, so they authorize or not mirrors.

Is it so problematic?

Besides, it is fair decision so each uploader can decide if he/she wants to permit mirrors. Not all uploader will disable. Anyhow we will see how this get balanced by downloaders.


About the 24H thing (this should not be mixed with mirrors question) why Strong Sound didnt explain that at a first place?? And why is it so important to keep exclusivity? If you came first you are first, is not that enough?
Besides, what was this post about?...
This was 24H , 24 days, 24 parties, 24 light years, 24 Frank Zappa before
Hooo my head ... I forgot..
rofl
  Resident 17.04.2012 34
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First of all.. what the hell is the difference.. 24 Hours or not..? after 24 hrs, when the password is up.. anyone can come and DL the pack.. and post it where ever the hell they want on any other site, IF they wanted to..

so the fact that people don't want their hard work and stuff leeched and put all over I understand.. but really what difference does 24hrs make.??

I dont know.. either way.. it is what it is.. Thank you to all the contributors.. and thanks to the Saint for the site.. im not gonna complain, for all the awesome stuff we get.. but this 24 hour thing is annoying.. wink

oh and PS.. everyone should being a CHEAP BASTARD.. and stop complaining about premium sites... they're freakin like $9.99 a MONTH.!! thats 0.33 cents a damn day..!!

if you want to DL crap faster.. become a member of a premium site.. and SUCK IT THE F UP..!! if you dont want to join one.. then take what you can get.. and shut the hell up..!

a bunch of damn little whining babies on this site.. wahhh.. premium.. wahhh.. i dont wanna pay.. ...you're getting infinite amounts of stuff for FREE... costs you NO $$$$$..!! and you're complaining about a damn $10/month..?! REALLY..?!!

I belong to like 5 premium sites, so i dont have wait to DL crap.. because im impatient.. and the $50 a damn month.. is WELL WORTH it..!! freakin $2/day..


Let me seee... either i pay.. $20.. $30... and more PER sample pack. $500 and more for DAW software.. up to thousands of dollars for Plugin Bundles..

OR.... I pay $10 a MONTH for ONE premium site and get everything.. (or in my case 5 cause I have no patience)

Like what planet are you people on.. where you can genuinely legitimately complain about that..??

i wish i could just throw a damn $10 bill at some of you, so i dont have to hear your whining for a month..

go outside and find ONE QUARTER per DAY.. and you'll be able to DL your FREE crap thats worth thousands..

CHEAP BASTARDS...!!
  Resident 9.01.2012 41
+3
satan213
You do know that $trong $ound uploads exclusively to premium sites, meaning you don't really get it for free.


I didn't realise, sorry. I'm not one for downloading everything going, I have what I need to be getting on with (more than enough to make good music) so it's only the odd thing I grab now and then (and for free). I didn't even know about the 24hr password until reading this, so non of his/her stuff caught my eye in the first place. Anyway, $trong $ound aint the only one uploading here wink


Actions speak louder than words guys, I think you know what you can do!!
  Resident 12.07.2011 55
+8
Everyone else has said what I think, but would like to add...

I'd prefer we formed a CO-OP and form a production company within the CO-OP.
Everyone pays $10-25 per month and dl from FTP.
Then anyone using the samples purchased by the CO-OP should be legally covered, in principle it can work the same as hiring a studio, where by you get use of their sample collections and software.
Also similar to if you hired a studio and had a friend working in remote access and having access to the CO-OPs sample vault for use in productions.
Or the same as a CO-IP would buy new gym equipment for the apartments where you live, you pay service charge and you get to use that equipment, I guess speaking to a lawyer could clarify things.
I'm guessing that many of you like to audition a lot of rls, but how much do we use?
I can't afford to buy everything, but have bought (and shared) enough over the years that i have a peaceful conscience!

These sort of sums are affordable (maybe even a little more by some) and even though i disapprove of people making $ from warez this sort of model is more in the spirit of a group or collective body.

It would also help to keep out any idiots!

  Resident 10.09.2011 216 1555
+6855
Why should Strong Sound get a special treatment from SAiNT while there are number of audio scene groups and contributors that does it free for the benefit of the warez community?
  Resident 26.03.2012 3
0
I cant see why everyone is up in arms here, links will stay alive and on free upload sites, and about the whole 24hrs password thing, Saint has already said he wasn't around to police SS, he didn't get special treatment and it wont be happening again[u][/u].... People seem to have got used to having a 'good thing' here and the community i thought i joined a while ago doesn't seem as friendly and mature as i first thought! Give Saint a break, respect his decision or go off and start your own competing site and see how well you get on!!

Much love Saint!!
  Resident 28.05.2012 568
+35
Respect has gone down massively from this one militant post. Hopefully it doesn't get as bad as ***, but they all seem to head that way so not suprised.
  Resident 11.01.2012 224
+19
Thanks Saint! Your diligence is appreciated.
  Resident 12.06.2011 82
0
I think Saint has handled this fairly
  Resident 6.03.2012 15
+4
Completely agree and accept. Extremely grateful for the hard work of the uploaders and you SAiNT, I can't believe how people can complain so much instead of been infinitely grateful!!
  Administrator 1.01.2004 301 1131
+23173
Tman, they just don't read the post no it's amazing why would they comment without reading the post, but it is a clear fact dunno at least there are still some people that read and think, and that makes me happy mates
  Resident 10.08.2010 1 460
+93
popped by to see what was going on and I'm glad to see that SAiNT has cleared up a few things. yes
Both the eyes are one-sided. For the perfect balance, you need Shiva’s third eye :D

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