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Hello everybody and welcome back to me, because I've been on 5 days vocation...

Unfortunately, I see straight away that some things got out of control while i was away, like this "Password in 24 hours" thing.

To keep it short: Strong Sound did that because he wanted to share more exclusive stuff and he didn't want other people to leech it and spread his releases on other sites or in comments/mirrors.

so, it's actually not a bad thing, which he was forced to come to, because i wasn't able to handle the mirrors problem properly.


And now I'd like to announce my decision regarding the Mirrors poll:
As usual, I wanted to make everybody happy, so i decided to provide contributors with an option to disable mirrors module in their posts.

This way, Contributors who spent money to buy and share exclusive stuff (like DISCOVER), will be able to disable mirrors in their posts;
Option will be also used by those Contributors, who want to reupload their links by themselves.

Those Contributors who don't want to reupload their posts, will leave the Mirrors option untouched, so members+ will still be able to post mirrors.

As result, we all get what we wanted.

P.S. Contributors will receive a letter with updates and instructions.

next day UPD:
I'm surprised so many members, and even residents gone straight to comment crap, instead of reading the article completely and understand what's actually happening.

to prevent the "broken telephone" thing, I'm explaining the change in detail and replying some comments.

How about the poll?
It is exactly because of your votes I do not disable mirrors for all contributors. people who say "you don't count our opinion" are full of shit;
- When you saying that, it seems that you're not even using this site, just coming here to drop a load of crap in comments and spread your hate.

1. Mirrors on AudioZ are needed because original links might die;
2. If Contributors will keep their links alive, there is no need for Mirrors;
3. Since we give the option to disable mirrors to some contributors, they are taking the responsibility to reupload their links to mirrors that you choose.

- now, out of interest, go read comments from rico88 (1st page) just to see how reckless people can get.

the situation is very straightforward: either I do something about mirrors, or contributors will stop posting those exclusive releases at all.

...AudioZ stays on top for all this time exactly because we can adapt to changes and move forward.

I need Mirrors!
- No you don't! Once I make the changes, every contributor who disables mirrors will be forced to upload to certain "most popular" servers which you will choose later, so that even free users could download.
...and those mirrors will stay fresh forever.

do i still have to wait for Password in 24 hours?
- of course not! that shit only happened because i was away and couldn't control the site.

Replying to comments:
<!--QuoteBegin satan213 --> satan213
<!--QuoteEBegin-->You do know that $trong $ound uploads exclusively to premium sites, meaning you don't really get it for free. You have to buy a premium account. Normally that wouldn't be a problem, as long as you have a premium account on one of the sites he/she uses.

as i said, that's not gonna happen. we will force them to upload the way people can get it for free.

<!--QuoteBegin rico88 --> rico88
<!--QuoteEBegin-->Maybe SAINT gets a cut ($$$) from the uploaders, that could be an answer as well. There could be many answers I suppose. It does seem to come down to the fact the poll did not matter and SAINT chose to disregard the results

you're so full of shit. words can't express how wrong you are.

<!--QuoteBegin rico88 --> rico88
<!--QuoteEBegin-->There are always options though. You can get your downloads from somewhere else (let's face it there are many other places to find links and torrent files), or you can choose to ignore posts by some uploaders (like Strong Sound) who do things in a way that you may or may not like

yet another pointless comment from a person who doesn't see the whole picture.

good luck finding those exclusive releases made specially for AudioZ, on your P2P or elsewhere. even the scene teams leeching releases from us now.

and since you're so confident, i guess you won't be missing your Resident status.


to everybody else who haven't noticed, AudioZ became much more than just a software archive.

I see Future AudioZ as a platform for sharing your own releases. And that's where I'm heading.

<!--QuoteBegin bupper --> bupper
<!--QuoteEBegin-->1. as suggested in another post, boycott Strong Sound

although this sounds really brave and stuff, i seriously doubt any of you would see a new hot release from SS and say "no way, i'm not downloading his links"... that is such a rofl....

<!--QuoteBegin KbcTkb --> KbcTkb
<!--QuoteEBegin-->As I said a few days ago in a thread that disappeared, he explicitly chose to make AudioZ into a (very public) market where Contributors can come and make money out out of pirated software

that's not true.

and i'm not some kind of a businessman who makes some business models for AudioZ or anything.\
the time ratio i've spent on this site will never be paid enough with money.
you will think whatever you want, but AudioZ is not a commercial web-site and I'm not making for a living on it.

...can't stop wondering why some people saying stuff like if they know it

<!--QuoteBegin burninstar --> burninstar
<!--QuoteEBegin-->Thanks Saint for everything you do. My wish would be for AudioZ not to change. It worked well the way it was.

"There is nothing permanent except change".

<!--QuoteBegin EtherealVoice --> EtherealVoice
<!--QuoteEBegin-->So why funtime cannot delay the password when SS can? (assuming equality of all members on this site)

nobody allowed that.

<!--QuoteBegin tjlee87 --> tjlee87
<!--QuoteEBegin-->I know I'm just a lowly leecher here and most of you will probably ignore me anyway, but why should Strong Sound get a special treatment from SAiNT while there are number of audio scene groups and contributors that does it free for the benefit of the warez community?

they are all special to me;
yet there are no special treatment to anybody in person, rules apply the same way to everyone.

<!--QuoteBegin ric_bm --> ric_bm
<!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, as someone said the poll results have been disregarded no matter how convincing they were. All my respect to Saint and his hard work over the years to keep Audioz running, but I'm afraid this isn't a good decision

it is actually the only right decision which meets the needs of all users.


to everyone else - thank you for your support and understanding

comments

  Banned 12.05.2012 172
+9
Then everyone should do passwords after 24 hours. problem solved.. you can get whats uploaded and post it somewhere else too!
Producers sell your beats at www.hiphop-instrumental.net when you want to make money! No monthly fee..
  Administrator 1.01.2004 301 1129
+23088
Lord Gaga
I refuse to pay for a bunch of gansters who make A LIVING out of warez.
Have you ever think that some uploaders are (maybe) buying their so-called "exclusive releases" with stolen credit cards' numbers, instead of with the money they pretend to earn thanks to your downloads through premium accounts ?

you're clearly thinking too much.

AudioZ is a place for musicians of all types;
people visit and get what they want, how they want it.

that's the essence, and everything behind it has nothing to do with music.

In regard to this : "Either I do something about mirrors, or contributors will stop posting those exclusive releases at all."...

Do you honestly believe in this bullshit ?

of course yes because, as it was mentioned before me, there are many web-sites which would be happy to take our place under any terms.

lysergyk
popped by to see what was going on and I'm glad to see that SAiNT has cleared up a few things. yes

I'm glad i did. I guess i shouldn't have posted this thread at all without fully explaining the situation...
  Resident 15.12.2008 35
0
Everybody that had something negative to say about how about how AudioZ run this website or about how the uploaders load their articles is full of sh*t. If you are so damn angry why don't you go buy the sh*t yourself, or shut the hell up? I do agree some post could be mirrored, because the mirrors uploads to the popular storage sites, while the original uploader may have choose some off brand bullsh*t that nobody subscribe to.
  Banned 17.04.2012 519
+89
Please do not do this again. You'll lose many of your guest members.

I cannot wait your password so i search them in google and download easily.
  Resident 21.09.2011 15 731
+1111
Thanks for explanation SAiNT. wink
Now it makes more sense to me.

I was worried that I cannot release my own nylon guitar library that I feel so excited about. It should be ready in a month.
Cheers
Thank you for helping us help you help us all.
  Resident 26.05.2010 3 325
+47
The whole warez scene got outta control.
Maybe it is time that it goes to the dogs, so that some of the shallow greedy bastards go and try to make money some other way.

There is absolutely no argument to justify making profit of stolen things.
Even if the uploader bought the stuff, that doesn't change anything. He did not buy the right to distribute it, and surely not to make profit with it.

And if thieves complain that their stolen things get stolen, that is surely one of the most stupid things they can do...
You have to be a moron not to realise that something is wrong with this argumentation. phones

SAiNT
that's the essence, and everything behind it has nothing to do with music.


You have spoken a true word here, but of course with something else in mind...
I doubt that some of the uploaders are music lovers/creators at all.
All the things being discussed here have nothing to do with music anymore... I think that is not the way it should be.

Saint, it is your site and you can decide how it should be, but you made one mistake...
Don't make a poll, if it is more or less decided beforehand how things will be yes
I can understand if some members are disappointed. If you haven't made the poll at all (twice), than also the agitation here would be much smaller.

And to call people "being full of shit" who doesn't share your opinion, is disrespectful, and I haven't seen this behaviour from you so far.

Even if they did write nonsense, you should remain an authority to be respected yes
  Resident 10.08.2010 1 460
+93
SAiNT,
I'm glad i did. I guess i shouldn't have posted this thread at all without fully explaining the situation...


How about the poll?
It is exactly because of your votes I do not disable mirrors for all contributors. people who say "you don't count our opinion" are full of shit;
- When you saying that, it seems that you're not even using this site, just coming here to drop a load of crap in comments and spread your hate.


there is no hate or any of that in my case, (there are more important things in life)..and I believe it's the same for the other members' comments (though some of us may seem prickly (me included))...when I read the comments, what prevails is just the feeling of being somewhat let down and betrayed by someone believed to be upright...that's just because you had indeed left way too much in the dark....assumptions are never a good thing, facts are what we need..Straight from the horse's mouth! lol

you say I'm reckless because of what I say...well considering all the comments I've seen that's chiefly an indication of what a lot of people who were always ready to help you thought...meaning there was clearly a problem with the current situation.

You see it as hate and anger, I read it as concern and incomprehension. As you may have noticed, there was no personal attack in my posts...I was somewhat foreseeing the future of Audioz from the perspective I was given...just like most of us, once again.

now that the situation has been clarified, the outlook is more acceptable. let's wait and see how all this is implemented.

every contributor who disables mirrors will be forced to upload to certain "most popular" servers which you will choose later, so that even free users could download.


thanks for your time

peace

Gulliver

And to call people "being full of shit" who doesn't share your opinion, is disrespectful, and I haven't seen this behaviour from you so far.

Even if they did write nonsense, you should remain an authority to be respected


dead on, that's for sure and that's why I pointed it out in my post.

Also, as we're at it...a few words to Strong Sound who's more or less the one who triggered all that...I'll put in in bold so you won't miss it.

If all the people who grew to despise you keep reporting the links you post....you wont have to worry too much about making money cuz you wont make any...and even less about protecting your uploads as no one will ever have time to download them! as we say, a word to the wise is enough.
Both the eyes are one-sided. For the perfect balance, you need Shiva’s third eye :D
  Member 1.11.2008 399
+39
do i still have to wait for Password in 24 hours?
- of course not! that shit only happened because i was away and couldn't control the site.

SAiNT

so $trong $ound lie through one's teeth because he wrote that this 24h thing was approved by site admin (in bold red letters when i remember well).
  Resident 17.02.2009 920
+334
Just a change of pace for a minute ...............


Its a sad sad world when you read things like this.

synthtopia.com

think carefully before you jump to conclusions.

-----------------------------------------------

Message to SAiNT

Do you know why i get this error when i try to msg another user, its been fine in the past but no matter what machine or browser i use it still shows this.

An error has occurred!

ANTISPAM: User ID not valid
Touch The Wires : I Dare You
  Resident 12.07.2011 55
+8
Now I can like the thread...
  Resident 4.06.2012 54
0
Wow SAiNT !!!
Thank you !
I'm not gonna go through all of those comments, but that quote from Einstein made you ur name's worth !
And I'm not even Catholic (anymore, since I was 8 ).

Mirrors or not; keeping up the links is what it is about !
Who wants to have Battery 1 point something, but it's nice to know it's still there !
;^)
A pitty most of those servers are so shitty...
If Vimeo and twitvid can do it for streaming vids, why not those up/down loading servers ?
But that's none of my business.

Happy to see this is such a lively neighbourhood ( hahahahaha ) !

Hugs !
  Banned 16.05.2010 364
+157
IN RESPONSE TO SAINT

1. I'm glad to see you try and clear up a few things, this business with Strong Sound has sharply divided the members of this site and caused a lot of problems. It's too bad though that you proceed to blame some (like me) that spoke up rather than focusing on where the problem began.

2. In response to another member I said it "could" be an answer and "maybe" it was possible you/the site were receiving a cut from Strong Sound on this new password/24 hr. arrangement, and that there could be "many" possible answers to why that was happening. You seem to resent the idea that I could even bring it up as a possibility, when the fault for thinking in those terms lays squarely on Strong Sound.

When Strong Sound first made these password/24 hour posts all the articles said it was 'with the approval of site administration' or something to that effect. I don't remember the exact words and Strong Sound has since removed that statement from the posts. BUT, the fact is that Strong Sound conveyed to all of us that you knew about this and were backing it. So who's to blame if we wind up thinking all sorts of things about what's going on? Maybe it would be more fair to single out the person that started these problems, rather than people like myself that reacted to what was going on.

3. You are upset that I mentioned if people were unhappy there are other sites to go to for music warez. You say I'm all wrong on that, and that Audioz has exclusive releases we won't find elsewhere. To be fair though, Strong Sound at least seems to be posting the exact same files in many different sites and so I can't figure how you think there is something so exclusive with that. Suggesting that if people are unhappy they go somewhere else is hardly revolutionary. It's too bad you feel a need to "penalize" someone over that and change their status here. In fact, it seems kind of petty of you. You didn't mind when I reported to you awhile back that one of the uploaders was regularly posting direct links to other sites, something that helped keep AudioZ safe. I thought you were big enough to accept the good with the bad. It might be fairer to penalize someone who falsely claimed you approved of something, and started the problem, rather than those that reacted to the situation. (CONT).



(CONT. FROM ABOVE)
4. You still seem to be missing some of the major concerns regarding "mirrors". You keep focusing on links remaining "alive" when the issue to many of us has been availability based on location. That's why many of us want more, rather than fewer, mirrors.

Many posts here contain mirror options that cannot be used by someone located in the U.S. Sometimes the available mirrors that are left are so slow that downloading a large file no longer makes sense; 4 or 5 hours for a hundred mb file just won't work. The more mirrors that are available, the greater the likelihood that we'll find one that we can actually use and complete a download with. THAT'S THE ISSUE TO SOME OF US, NOT WHETHER OR NOT THE LINKS ARE STILL ALIVE. I've posted many times recently that I've had to start using torrent sites because of this problem, but that I wish we could get better mirrors here so that I could continue to use AudioZ. I've also asked in some posts why I see many downloading sites that regularly use free and fast hosts (like zippy, jumbo, mediafire to name a few) but that we can't use them here? It seems to be a difference between the financial interests of the uploaders vs. the availability of free hosts that provide really fast downloads and a better experience for all the rest of us. (CONT)
"It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken"
  Resident 30.04.2012 119
+51
Thank you very much for clarify the status of mirror links and 24h/passwords. Also, I'm glad to hear (or read) where is heading the site, because I have a lot of old instruments I would like to offer to other users.

I'm not gonna lie, I was about to comment (for the past 2 days) but I was stressed and misinformed enough to be respectful and impartial. But, hey, the panorama looks promising now. (Sorry for my english if something is bdong)
[ Juan Sanabria ]
  Banned 16.05.2010 364
+157
PART II

5. When you decided to re-do the poll regarding mirrors you said something about how you thought things were off because the vote was so heavily in favor of continuing the mirrors. When you re-did the poll, the results were still just as heavily weighted towards the mirrors.

I'm really not interested in fighting with you, I recognize its your site and I'm just a visitor here. That said, I'm not going to be dishonest about what I see just because you might otherwise dislike me. The fact is, it certainly seems that you didn't really want to follow the results of the poll even though you said it would influence the future of AudioZ. You can single me out, but I see lots of members saying the same. If the poll was really followed, mirrors would have remained as they were in the first place. Saint, sometimes when you try to make everyone happy you wind up making no one happy. Unfortunately, Strong Sound created a situation here where not everyone was going to wind up being happy no matter what happened.

6. Finally, you say that you doubt we would skip over a 'hot new release' just because it's been provided by a particular uploader. On this particular point I think you're dead wrong. You miss the point of just how much people were pissed off by this, and seem to assume that members we'll wind up being just as greedy as some of the uploaders have shown themselves to be. Not true. Personally, doesn't matter if I'm here or not here, I would never download something from Strong Sound again regardless of which name they are using on which site, it just doesn't matter. It could be the greatest download of all time, and it still won't matter to me.

DON'T FORGET SAINT, NO SINGLE MEMBER/RESIDENT STARTED THIS CONTROVERSY. STRONG SOUND STARTED IT. BLAME OR SINGLE OUT WHO YOU WANT, BUT THERE'S NO GETTING AROUND THAT.
"It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken"
  Resident 21.09.2011 15 731
+1111
rico88,
+1 most of the time. Especially that this controversy was started because of Strong Sound. Thanks to him/her, things are quite interesting in there. He/she invented something new so that no-one is bored and thus getting pretty much attention.

I just hope that one day things settle down for maximum satisfaction for both 'sides' of the community.
That's enough from me in this case. Let's go enjoy life...and music of course mates
By the way, thanks for everything, it was splendid weekend wink

Just saying... yes
Thank you for helping us help you help us all.
  Resident 1.08.2011 1 118
+152
This controversy has been started by greed... nothing else.

I support SAINT 100% and I'm glad he didn't pay attention to the poll.
Democracy ? WTF are you all talking about ? You're all so greedy with your expectations... it's pathetic.

Only the leader has the vision of the big picture and that's why he's leading and NO ONE ELSE => and it takes sacrifices.
Who can claim that he has sacrificed more than SAINT to this site ?
Please fellas, show some respect.
https://soundcloud.com/black-mental
https://facebook.com/blackmentalmusic
  Administrator 1.01.2004 301 1129
+23088
Lord Gaga
That's exacly what I've tried to do long time ago on another place, but even if a lot of members were involved in the project, it has fell because of some rotten apples who didn't stop to distribute our exclusive content elsewhere. I sincerely hope it will not be the case here (but I honestly doubt it) and I'm ready to participate.

and how's that can be a problem? wow
so, you say "rotten apples who didn't stop to distribute our exclusive content elsewhere" and in another comment you protest against the closing mirrors, while mirrors are exactly the "rotten apples" for original uploaders... isn't this a contradiction?

- i don't care about those things. this is actually how the internet was built - everybody leeches.

and if person provides stuff for release doesn't want the same stuff to appear elsewhere, that sounds pretty much like a cyber racism. sad

when it comes to releases, if you ask me, all what matters is for people to know their heroes.

Lord Gaga
I know, that's why I'm still number one in my business...

wink

And if thieves complain that their stolen things get stolen, that is surely one of the most stupid things they can do...
You have to be a moron not to realise that something is wrong with this argumentation.

i agree, that pretty low...
  Administrator 1.01.2004 301 1129
+23088
lysergyk
when I read the comments, what prevails is just the feeling of being somewhat let down and betrayed by someone believed to be upright...that's just because you had indeed left way too much in the dark....assumptions are never a good thing, facts are what we need..Straight from the horse's mouth! lol

i did left lots of things in the dark, that is true. if people knew the reasons this poll even started, i bet results were different.

anyway, I believe i made the only right decission that satisfies everyone.

lysergyk
You see it as hate and anger, I read it as concern and incomprehension.

that's not true no shitty shouts like "AudioZ is dead" have nothing to do with concerns and incomprehensions.

lysergyk
As you may have noticed, there was no personal attack in my posts...

lol, how's that could not be personal? i've created and supported this project for more than 8 years! and still haven't made it commercial, to save the idea..
so it is very personal to me yes

lysergyk
Also, as we're at it...a few words to Strong Sound who's more or less the one who triggered all that...I'll put in in bold so you won't miss it.

no need to blame SS, because he wasn't the first who complained on mirrors, just as he wasn't the first who started to post exclusive stuff wink

actually, the whole thing has nothing to do with SS. i guess everything turned against him because he started to use that crap with "password in 24 hours", so while people were blaming him for that, somebody also decide to put all the other guilt on him rofl

lysergyk
now that the situation has been clarified, the outlook is more acceptable. let's wait and see how all this is implemented.

I'm glad you understood it right now mates


malco
so $trong $ound lie through one's teeth because he wrote that this 24h thing was approved by site admin (in bold red letters when i remember well).

no, if memory not fails me, he didn't, but i honestly thought this was a one time deal, maybe two times, but that's all. i was pretty surprised when i saw that amost every post he made in that period was protected in that manner...

anyway, i think it's better to have any posts, than don't have it at all. so if that's the choice, then i think i did the right one.


The-RoBoT
Message to SAiNT

Do you know why i get this error when i try to msg another user, its been fine in the past but no matter what machine or browser i use it still shows this.

An error has occurred!

ANTISPAM: User ID not valid

as funtime said, it happens when you keep the tab opened for too long... before there was a problem when you couldn't open two "Send message" tabs - the first one will throw the same error, but now it's fixed.

i believe i send more messages on AudioZ than any of you guys, and i only saw this error once, so i don't think it's that critical. sad

anyway, if you're using Firefox, you should get "Recover Text" plugin. saved me tons of time several times (and not only on AudioZ). wink

uber909, wise words bro... thanks. mates
  Resident 4.06.2012 54
0
Okay peeps...
Things are getting way too emotional...(snif).
Loging out.

;^)

  Resident 22.01.2012 37
+1
SAiNT,
"How about the poll?
It is exactly because of your votes I do not disable mirrors for all contributors. people who say 'you don't count our opinion' are full of shit"


The poll was 'Mirrors - are they actually useful?', to which the vast majority of response was 'Yes, Always!'
Your response was, effectively : partially, not always.
Which is the good choice business-wise, by the way : consumers don't dictate the conditions when the supply is low.

So, technically, you dismissed the result itself; the poll, as it was, was of no real consequence.
Saying so is not being "full of shit", it's just stating a matter of fact.

Whenever some people think they were voting on a rule at AudioZ, and then complain, now THAT is full of shit.
You never said this poll was absolutely binding, and it was not. This was to be expected, this is your place and you can do whatever you want with it, and no one should whine about it.

KbcTkb,
"As I said a few days ago in a thread that disappeared, he explicitly chose to make AudioZ into a (very public) market where Contributors can come and make money out out of pirated software"

SAiNT,
"that's not true.
and i'm not some kind of a businessman who makes some business models for AudioZ or anything.\
the time ratio i've spent on this site will never be paid enough with money.
you will think whatever you want, but AudioZ is not a commercial web-site and I'm not making for a living on it.
...can't stop wondering why some people saying stuff like if they know it"


Preventing mirrors has a monetary purpose, even if the money doesn't explicitly or eventually go to you. You didn't disagree with this. And I never condemned you for it : I've said people just have to move elsewhere if they don't like this.

But by offering this kind of protection -- the protection of a source of revenues -- to those who make money out out of pirated software and audio libraries, this makes you more than a host.
If that's what you really wanted, hey, it's not my place to try to change your mind, and I won't. It's your choice.

You may not like what I've said, or the words used to describe the situation, but they are appropriate (or somehow applicable) in the context of the above.
Deep down, you may not want to host a bazaar, but that doesn't mean it's not what it is, or will become, or will be perceived to be.
I might be wrong about your intentions (which is probably the case), but not necessarily about what is happening.

I tried to express my opinion amidst whiners and sycophants (though not all), so if you sense it's only useless bitterness, or shallow anger, then so be it. Neither of us will lose sleep over it.

malco,
so Strong Sound lie through one's teeth because he wrote that this 24h thing was approved by site admin (in bold red letters when i remember well).

SAiNT,
no, if memory not fails me, he didn't

There was a note in red or blue in many of his Sonokinetic posts (for example) (now disappeared) which said about the delayed password : "It has approved by site administration!".
Whether he wrote it himself, or was added by a mod/site admin (doubtful), I don't know.

If you're quick enough, some are still in the Google cache: search with "approved site administration site:audioz.info" (without the ""). Be sure to click on the "Cache" links, not the main links themselves.
At least 8 of his postings had this.
As of writing this, you can see it in the google cache for "Sonokinetic Toccata KONTAKT" and "Sonokinetic Nevel KONTAKT".
  Resident 18.09.2011 138
+26
The thing is... this has all come down to making money.. and that's the exact reason why there has been all the issues with megadownload etc....

Back in the day.... ( when I was a member of Radium) the scene was something else entirely. People cracked and uploaded software to simply share... not to make money. There was competition... a race to supply... to be the best sharers there were. Not to make financial gain from doing so. The emphasis on making money plays completely into the hands of the anti piracy lobby and does nothing for the future of sharing warez other than bring the spotlight down on the reasons why the anti piracy lobby will gain more and more support.. and how much stronger the legal actions taken, will be eventually leading to the closure of such sites as this one.

People, this isn't and shouldn't be about greed and earning a living from piracy... That was never the intended spirit of those that have spent many years making sure everyone could have access to the software they simply couldn't afford or wanted to test out properly before purchasing it... It should be simply about sharing... with everyone able to do so without the focus being on how much money can be made...

As far as mirrors are concerned, the more the merrier as many mirrors are not available in certain countries or the access to them requires the end user to spend more and more money to access the wares... which defeats the whole purpose of sharing the warez.

The sooner people get back to the true purpose of sharing... the better.. for all concerned... now and in the long term.

Mag (formally known as Zeneca)




  Member 1.11.2008 399
+39
after RADiUM's wise words it would be good to close this damn thread.

audioz.info will anyway never be the same place as before. this community thing is going downhill with a strong sound. phones
  Resident 10.09.2011 216 1555
+6854
SAiNT Thnkx For Your Hard Work Keep It BRu
  Banned 16.05.2010 364
+157
@Lord Gaga --

same thing over at Mage$y .... same "exclusive" posts under a different name. I found a few other sites as well.

@KbcTkb --

nice pickup on the google cache!~. I found the 2 you mentioned and a 3rd, as well. There were several others but the images were already erased in the Google cache. I took screen caps of the 3 if there's any dispute :)

It doesn't appear that any of this is going to matter though. A clear reading of what SAINT has to say indicates he's determined to support Strong Sound no matter what points we make, or what we have to say, or even how we vote on a poll. Precisely why that is, I don't think any of us know for sure. We may have some ideas, but it's all guesses and hunches. The people that do know (SAINT & Strong Sound) aren't really saying that much other than whatever you derive from seeing Strong Sound get his/her way on just about everything. I'm disappointed, and will continue to feel something must be going on to see support for someone who behaves so badly, but it's clear we're not going to know precisely what's up.

SAINT will continue backing Strong Sound, and it's his site so there's nothing more we can do about it, other than take the personal actions that reinforce a different point of view, e.g., not participate here, not download Strong Sound's links, or whatever people feel is personally best for them. We're not going to change any policy here and that's that.

Now excuse me, I must cry in my pillow over my demotion to "member". To paraphrase Fiona Apple, 'I've been a bad, bad boy'.
"It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken"
  Resident 28.07.2011 12 74
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SAiNT wink nice work i loved u do the best thank's headbang
  Resident 26.05.2010 3 325
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SAiNT
anyway, if you're using Firefox, you should get "Recover Text" plugin. saved me tons of time several times (and not only on AudioZ).


What is the exact name of this add-on?
I can't find it dunno
  Resident 10.08.2010 1 460
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rico88
A clear reading of what SAINT has to say indicates he's determined to support Strong Sound no matter what points we make, or what we have to say, or even how we vote on a poll. Precisely why that is, I don't think any of us know for sure. We may have some ideas, but it's all guesses and hunches. The people that do know (SAINT & Strong Sound) aren't really saying that much other than whatever you derive from seeing Strong Sound get his/her way on just about everything. I'm disappointed, and will continue to feel something must be going on to see support for someone who behaves so badly, but it's clear we're not going to know precisely what's up.


well if that's really a problem, then the solution is fairly simple isnt it?..if so many people resent strong sound..what they just ahev to do is not to use his/her links...no one is forced to do so, right?!...most of the time what's posted is crap anyway..or if it's good/intersting you can find alternative links some place else too, so no big deal.

What I dont like is the attitude and the argumentation to back all this up...but as I said wait and see ..facts..not assumptions yes


Gulliver
What is the exact name of this add-on?
I can't find it dunno



probably one of these

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/recover-forms-text-area-data-firefox/
Both the eyes are one-sided. For the perfect balance, you need Shiva’s third eye :D
  Banned 16.05.2010 364
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lysergyk
as I said wait and see ..facts..not assumptions


You're right lysergyk, but for me at this point I don't think it matters. All this nonsense and drama, combined with what SAINT did with my account today, well... I'm pretty much done here. I've enjoyed my time here, and have gotten some nice things, and met a few truly excellent members, but if I can't speak up without it turning into a problem, then this isn't the place for me anymore.

All my best to the folks here that know where it's at.
"It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken"
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  Resident 18.12.2011 4 38
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I SUPPORT SAINT 100%

Even I was kinda frustrated with some retards making some lame posts ..

"use it if u want..share it if u can..if not GTFO."

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