KatFile will be Discontinued... one day

It works VERY well for me in Spain.

The question lies in what the alternative is and what advantages "uploaders" and "downloaders" get with that replacement. We more or less know now the problems uploaders have had with KF. Buy what about downloaders? I mostly download occasionally to try something out, as most of the visitors to this site; and both RG and KF are a nuisance for those who don't make money out of this and download occasionally. I turn to Ru whenever there's a heavy download. I presume, because we have not been given the alternative option, that for people like me any alternative will be more of the same. I am very happy when Mega links appear in the file I want to download.

quote by Bennett.Jackson
5. You see the vote is not going your way, so now you send out "the team" to call us names like ungrateful, guilt people out, and try to sway the vote with the power a Mod has.

He did no such thing. What an unfair and, quite frankly, nonsensical assumption. You have no basis or evidence to support accusing the staff like that. It comes across as nothing more than an entitled accusation from yet another leecher.

quote by Bennett.Jackson
Now you're saying Vladdrac has perfectly explained something when they offer false and misleading statements

Once again, you're making stuff up. I've provided factual information straight from the horse's mouth. Despite that, you chose to dismiss the words of Mods, Contributors, and Releasers, just to keep pushing your agenda. Here's a reality check: you're wasting your time and, in the process, disrespecting many valuable individuals who contribute to keeping the scene alive - no thanks to you, by the way.

SAiNT made an announcement and sought the users' reaction to choose a suitable host replacement. It doesn't mean users get to dictate everything. If you're unhappy and feel the urge to make stuff up while insulting those who provide for you, just leave already.

Hopefully it will be a file host that will still work on the free version of deepbrid. That would be totally awesome and greatly appreciated!

quote by vladdrac...always the freeloaders who are the most vocal about it. ...beggars can't be choosers. ...yet another leecher.

"freeloaders", "beggars", "leechers" -- you're the only one I see insulting people here. Good that you let Audioz members know what you think of them. IMO, it's a shame that Olymoon stated support for someone who expresses such contempt for the site's members. That seems to be your thing though. Uploaders and admins are royalty, the rest are filth. Got it. I wish they had sent me the memo on that one :)

quote by vladdracstraight from the horse's mouth.

What "horse's mouth is talking to you? And how high are you when this happens? I've no idea what you're trying to say.

quote by vladdracdismiss the words of Mods, Contributors, and Releasers, just to keep pushing your agenda.

Agenda? I have no agenda. I do have an opinion. It seems to be one that gets under your skin pretty good, seeing as you think only the uploaders here have value. I've not dismissed anyone. I've stated disagreements and did so politely, unlike you. The problem is you seem to think members here have no right to disagree. Honestly, I've tried not to be insulting with you, but you're making it real difficult to avoid...

quote by vladdracSAiNT made an announcement and sought the users' reaction to choose a suitable host replacement. It doesn't mean users get to dictate everything. If you're unhappy and feel the urge to make stuff up while insulting those who provide for you, just leave already.

I didn't realize you were of such importance here that you can decide who stays and who goes. Duly noted!

If you'd read my comments above, most of which discuss factual site history and experience, you would have spotted me discussing an instance where there was a thread similar to this one years back where voting about hosters went a certain way and the admins ignored the vote. As such, you should have recognized that I'm already aware members here don't get to dictate much of anything. However, I do see it as rather odd (at best) to measure the temperature on an issue and then ignore it. As I stated previously, don't ask for a vote if you don't intend to abide by it. It seems pointless, and destined to cause acrimony and bitterness among people here. You seem to want to take issue with that, because you want your way regardless of how people here vote, since you've already established the people here don't matter.... you matter. Clearly, you're a very, very important person here and it must be hard for you to be around the freeloaders, leechers, beggars, and general trash. It must be tough being you.

quote by Bennett.JacksonYou see the vote is not going your way, so now you send out "the team" to call us names like ungrateful, guilt people out, and try to sway the vote with the power a Mod has.

quote by vladdracHe did no such thing. What an unfair and, quite frankly, nonsensical assumption. You have no basis or evidence to support accusing the staff like that. It comes across as nothing more than an entitled accusation from yet another leecher.

I think you misinterpret my comment about "the team". Either that or you deliberately misconstrue it to keep starting in. I'm not sure which. I often hear Olymoon say "The ones that do are the ones who decide." It's also printed on his comments. I've heard him explain that as meaning what the uploaders want is what goes. I think of the 'uploaders' as 'his team'. Unfortunately, I don't see your view, or his, as regular site members being part of that team. You in particular feel people here aren't even entitled to opinions or disagreements. I view that as, well, pathetic. Do I think Olymoon is trying to drum up support? Yes. Do I think that brings people like you into the conversation. Yes.

You know, in my view Audioz basically has 3 components to its makeup. Admins, Uploaders, Members. You take away any one of those components, and the place fails. Without Admins, you have frenzy. Without uploaders, nothing more to download. Without members you have an empty site that few people would want to be in, and the uploaders lose their income. I see all 3 components as being critical here. You see only one, the uploaders, while viewing the rest as trash that are freeloaders, leechers, and beggars. Honestly, I have just as little use for you with your attitude, as you say you have for me.

Good luck.

KAT is my choice, I avoid RG if possible.

quote by OlymoonYou didnt follow all the steps of making and caring for a post. So your comaprison is wrong.

So basically I would need to place my hand on a stove to fully understand, and "follow all the steps", to know it would burn? Sorry Oly, you're being silly. I've seen enough uploaders here describe the process of posting to have a reasonable understanding. According to you I'd have to jump out of an airplane to be fully certain I can't fly!

quote by OlymoonYoucan do it, this is just a little effort. Youcan see the ratrios on any file hosting, and you can see how much post any poster here. Last but not lest, where are your mirrors with super free mirrors?

The conversation has nothing to do with "free mirrors". We've been discussing the choice of dropping Katfile. You seem to always drag "free mirrors" into it. I don't see the relevance. Besides, most posts on Audioz don't allow mirrors, so bringing this up makes little sense.

Secondly, I've not seen how, on Rapidgator for example, you can see numbers of downloads for a particular file or how many gigabytes downloaded per file. I've only rarely partially seen that on some hosting sites (for example, a number of downloads given), but not all. If someone was going to compute what we're talking about, you'd need to know a total number of all downloads for all hosters involved on a particular file, along with the particular hosting site payout per/download/gigabyte. If you know how to do that, I would greatly appreciate it were you to DM me with instructions. I'd be very interested in learning if you're willing to share it.

quote by OlymoonNo, I dont frequently upload file here. What I do is almost nothing compared to other posters. And I only think about the community as a member. I want to continue seeing good posts here, with working links.

Most days of the week Oly I see one post or another put up by you. Sure, it doesn't compare to the 'regulars' at Audioz, but you seem to do it on some basis. So yes, it does seem like a "conflict of interest". I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one.

quote by OlymoonThis is democraty, you say y what you think, and I also say what I think.
The difference is that what I say is based on knowledge, not assumption like half this all comment from you, comparing things that cant be compared, assuming that you know things that you dont know.
What I see is that you are at the end of your arguments so now you have to discredit me as a person. ...I have no preference to where the vote will go, Vladrac explained very well the situation without any biased argument like you did. At the end you are defending your own interest. So dont play the unbiased. You accused uploaders to be greedy

Most of my comments discuss site history, and that's fact. My comments about what went on when Katfile was originally chosen are factual, 100%. It was about money. Although another commenter did use the word "greedy", I did not. So you are wrong on that. I try to avoid name-calling, unlike your new favorite member Vladdrac. You say I'm assuming things I don't know, but don't point to specifics. I can't respond to non-specific accusations. I've tried to be specific in my own comments, you're not really trying at all. Seems to me like you want to be angry only because someone disagrees with you.

End of my arguments? Discredit you? Bias? I don't think so Oly. You certainly do seem to have a preference on the vote, on that one you don't seem to be speaking honestly. I've noticed several of your comments today were on the aggressive side towards some people here who say they don't want to see Katfile dropped. You don't specify what my bias supposedly is, and once again you don't point to particulars. Sounds like you're just making a lot of accusations that coincidentally seem to mesh with whatever Vladdrac had to say. Clearly, Vladdrac feels motivated to start a problem here.

You claim I'm defending my own interest... My interest is in seeing people here have a say in what happens. Period. It would be nice, on a site that we all appreciate, to not be pushed around and have a say. Does that seem like too much to be asking? Maybe to you it is, but that's my only bias. And 'discrediting' you? Please... that's just Vladdrac trying to start a war here, and now you're joining in. It's not being honest, don't do it.

quote by OlymoonI'm not the admin, he will decide. I'm speaking as a member here, and as such I have the same right to defend what I think is good for AudioZ.

No one disputes your right to defend what you think is good for the site, certainly I don't. But it's a little silly to say you're speaking as a member. You're one of the heads here. Let's not pretend you're not.

quote by OlymoonNot all, but many do this for the goodness of sharing. You are projecting your own mentality. All of them have a real job. Posting is not a way of living.

I think there are a few uploaders who do this out of the "goodness of sharing". zytto comes to mind. In fact, I wish he'd shown up to this thread so I could learn what he'd say. It would have been meaningful to hear his take on Katfile. Projecting my own mentality?? Olymoon, you don't even know me. You want to be angry that someone has the audacity to disagree with you, so be it. If you feel comfortable giving likes to Vladdrac's insults and playing a game of non-specific accusations, so be it. It doesn't bother me, and in the end I don't really care. As I mentioned earlier, I have 3 kids to worry about, Vladdrac's just a pesky little fly on my shoulder compared to the real things that matter.

quote by alex2035I tend to agree with it almost in its entirety, after reading the first quote from this member vladdrac...what an unnecessary, ugly and insulting comment he makes.
Well rebutted.

I'm sorry to hear that you feel this way, but that first quote has been edited and taken out of context to make me look like a complete dick. I provided an objective explanation for why KAT is being discontinued, but Bennet seemed unwilling to accept it. This led to baseless accusations of staff greed, profiteering through uploads, and an attempt to create drama by depicting mods as tyrants, while dehumanizing whoever points out his BS. Over the years, I've made dozens of meaningful friends who truly understand the essence of this site. I've also seen users like Bennet come and go, they tend to be entitled, condescending, and indifferent to the massive efforts required to keep AudioZ running smoothly for everyone's enjoyment. At the end of the day, this is a warez website, run by some of the most altruistic folks I've met, and it's not fair that a handful of people will bash them like that.

Add another mirror than "rapid"gator then.

Honestly, this endless string of arguments is meaningless because it is up to the owners of this site and the contributors/releasers what works best for them. They run and maintain the site and the choice is up to them, not us regardless of whether we like the final decision or not. If we get extremely lucky, and the OP of the release decides to grace us with multiple quick download sites, be sure to thank them profusely so they know you appreciate them. Even if they don't but still share those releases, be grateful because they don't have to give us anything and they owe us nothing.

Great News!!! Thank you Audioz!! Happy New Year!!

From my experience from a developing country:

Clicknupload > Rapidgator = Katfile > Nitroflare (the free Nitroflare was the worst by a long margin, extremely limited download speed, just like a dial up connection from 20 years ago).

That's a lucky escape for me. Nitroflare is slower than a slow thing in free mode. At least 10 times slower than any of the other free services.