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Honestly, everything here I've downloaded has been quality- I've never heard of this person posting rubbish, but then I don't spend my time downloading things that look like shit in the first place!

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iNteresting Read .. Thanks Hope you all Sort it

Hardl0ck

Actually I am kind of happy to see that there are more people who feel this way ...
I mean it would be un respectfully to the company's that actually make the stuff
not to mention that some of theme are destroyed by Warez (take Kjaerhus Audio for example)
However I am Happy that IMSTA is trying to make people open there eyes

Manuel Schleis Actually once told me that he wished there were more people Like me
And actually you guys writing this here is proof to me that there are

^ I'm of the same thinking. When you put yourself in the shoes of the developers, making income off of warez is like knockin em one in the teeth. What I'm doing now with these programs now is nothing more than recreational. Should I ever be put in a position where I do make profit from the programs (HAH), I'd have to sacrifice one of three things -- money, integrity, or the programs themselves.

I completely agree with you guys, I think it's deeply immoral to make money with cracked software.



Just be happy for the possibility to use products you can't afford.

SAiNT i think we all have came togather,as a community and spoke of what you should do....it is the people who make this site what it is!

Shinto,
i agree 100%

Completely agree. It's totally inmoral to make money with something whose original creator doesn't.
I've been for long time in a forum (sadly... lost them a while ago) where you HAD to post some kind of answer to the original post to be able to see the url's. Obviously you had to be registered and being somewhat known to the admins.
This gives the poster a lot more control about who's grabbing his stuff, and makes people much more active to feedback.

Well, I see it that way:

I don't make any money with my music (unfortunately), I hope that maybe someday I will.
But as for now, why not use the best possible software on the market which is available?
It does make a difference, because you lern what good software is all about, what you can achieve with it, and how it sounds (in case of virtual instruments).

If it would not be possible to crack software, would I pay 1300 Euros for the Lexicon Reverb Bundle, for example?
Certainly not. So I would use just the built in reverb in the DAW, or some other cheap PlugIn. So I don't create any damage at all for Lexicon or the other companies which cracked software I use.

On the contrary, now I know much better which software I would buy and use, if I could earn money with music. And certainly I would buy the products I use, then.
Because just like it is immoral to make money with uploading, of course it is too if you own a studio, make good money and use cracked software. THIS people who do that, should be punished very hard, not the average downloader like me (and you), who just likes to have pro sounds in his music.

and no one noticed here that even shareislove ,GonBi , kiemtien001 , longu123 , dukeiggi are only here to put links , they don´t make uploads for the community , only to make money from uploads , i bed they are not even musicians ! and i bed too some of them are the same person , just different names for the account !

google the names and you will find it all over the net !!

Gulliver,
again man i agree 100% with you.
Ravix,
yeah i realize that a plug is cheaper than hardware and i realize that a plug is cheaper than a ferrari...but unfortunately i can't afford hardware, commercial plugs or a ferrari! the lexicon, for example is what i earn in a month! why don't use free plugs you ask? well they are uncomparable with the priced ones, and even if it's only for hobby why don't try the best to achieve a good result? as gulliver says if I could earn money with music certainly I would buy the products I use. You say "If you cant buy it, You don't need it" and i ask you: if you don't need the stuff you can't buy, why are you a member of this site?

matmau,
There is so much out there you actually want to know what you will get ...
the lexicon Reverb is nice ... but there are a lot cheaper alternatives that can achieve the same or even better results
the point is that there is so much stuff out there that it's quite easy to buy something that you might not need
you might still remember the words "Try before you buy"
there is also the point that you might come across something that you do not know yet or from A company that you never heard of

so to summarise some of the weird and wonderful opinions:

you guys are saying "don't make money from wares"
or even sharing wares?????? (if its so easy why don't those who criticise share??)
hey why don't you guys create and mange a wares site for free. just for us to enjoy. you idealistic buffoons.
its not making sense

does saint make money from this site? (sorry saint but its relevant)

if wares and making money from wares is soooooooooooo wrong .........just buy you stuff. they are available on shop sites, go find one.

people chat such shit

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it remind me of the 'just say no' to drugs policy. just say no to war. just say no to obesity. just say no to mental illness and depression.

well here is another one witch is very twisted ...
If you use warez with the intention not to buy it be sure you don't make money with it
in other words make sure that you use only plugins that you will be able to afford when you ever send demo's to people who are able to release your tracks

absolutely agree..


stop this bullshit, the money i'm making out this project won't even cover the hosting... it's literally peanuts.

google,

Don't you think it's pretty unethical to make money from warez? Think about it. Most of the sample cd producers don't make that much money from sales either and if somebody else makes money from their hard work (and the original producers never see a dime), that's pretty fucking wrong in my book. It's like selling stolen goods. I'm speaking now solely about making money with those filesharing services like Hotfile etc .. I don't mind sharing at all but nobody should be benefitting from this money-wise in my opinion! If that's the case it's better to give money to people who make these great products so they can continue doing so!

I understand that not everybody has the resources to buy stuff and that's why warez is great. Giving everybody the ability to try and use stuff. But if those uploaders earn money buy doing this... How long does it take to upload and share something, that's not real work. I understand that it's not free to run a website but the donations should go to the website owner and not those filthy uploaders who try to make money from warez! Filthy maggots! It's so wrong on so many levels :( and yes, I buy stuff myself too.

It is not "idealistic" to show adult restraint in this life.

Is it wrong, ethically, to download digital content? I have struggled with this question long before we even had the WWW.

My personal belief is that it is a "victim-less" crime right up to the point at which the end-user makes profit, since BOTH creators and users of digital content should financially benefit when new $$$ are created through the transformation of that content into a new 'product' which is, in turn, 'resold'.

If you really want to split hairs...I feel it's more immoral to download a finished artistic expression, i.e. movies and music, since the end-user is already enjoying the benefits of the creators' content in a way that offers no avenue for collaboration – thus, ending the revenue path.

Obviously, we enjoy using sample discs and music programs that we DL here and elsewhere. They are essentially tools. Paint for the musician's canvass.

But, when the painter sells a painting, the paint-maker sure as hell deserves his cut of the proceeds.

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OK cool maybe I'm wrong

saint covers his running cost (thanks for clearing that up bro)

but I'm still confused about how much content would exist if we relied on altruism alone

but maybe it says something about the cynic in me.

Saint i love this site, I'll keep my head down

Much Love

========== http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism ==========

Altruism (pronounced /ltruzm/) is selfless concern for the welfare of others. It is a traditional virtue in many cultures, and a core aspect of various religious traditions, though the concept of 'others' toward whom concern should be directed can vary among religions. Altruism is the opposite of selfishness.

Altruism can be distinguished from feelings of loyalty and duty. Altruism focuses on a motivation to help others or a want to do good without reward, while duty focuses on a moral obligation towards a specific individual (for example, God, a king), a specific organization (for example, a government), or an abstract concept (for example, patriotism etc.). Some individuals may feel both altruism and duty, while others may not. Pure altruism is giving without regard to reward or the benefits of recognition and need.

The term altruism may also refer to an ethical doctrine that claims that individuals are morally obliged to benefit others. Used in this sense, it is the opposite of egoism.

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a little warning for all User , the uploads from TheSim (Files) are bigger than unrared (every Time in his uploads) , do you not know how to compress archive ??

google - I don't know how old you are, but that is exactly how this 'sharing scene' has always worked. In the IRC and FTP days we would allow people to log on to our computers to download our files (and likewise p2p of course). Nobody has ever even wanted to make money from it. It's not 'altruism' so much as 'mutual help' - sometimes you will serve, sometimes you will leech.

Incidentally, SAiNT didn't say he covered his costs, he said he no way covers his costs...so not only is he not making money from this, he is actually paying out to do his bit to help us all. His payment is knowing how much we love 'im .