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Vertigo Sound VSE-2 v1.5.73-R2R screenshot
Team R2R | 2024.02.18 | 42.1 MB
THE METICULOUS EMULATION OF OUR DISCRETE GYRATOR EQ VSE-2

VSE-2 PLUGIN ONLY
Frequency bands can be switched indepently to "Broad" (Low Q)
Additional Input and Output Trims to Avoid Internal Clipping Issues in your DAW.
All levels can be set directly at the VSE-2 EQ stage.
Harmonic Control with Drive LED



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  Member 12.02.2018 203 437
+1303
Much love to the team for this! STELLAR!
  Member 28.11.2016 913
+311
Awesome Vertigo releases to wake up to! Thanks R2R!!
  Resident 8.08.2019 2 146
+349
It only get better, my oh my. Really can't wait and thanks R2R for cleaning up the code. Always relieved to read such great notes
yIn audioz
  Member 23.02.2016 1 204
+52
I wonder how this compares to Tokyo Dawn Slick EQ? Very similar in concept it seems.
  Member 31.05.2020 1 241
+237
Check it in Plugindoctor: this EQ cramps near Nyquist.
So unfortunatley this is not a proper "analog emulation". Analog EQs don't cramp!
Keith Don't Go!
  Member 29.11.2020 29 2556
+2632
It didn't, it's the first thing I've checked. The plugin runs at 2x oversampling minimum, highly unlikely for the EQ to cramp at the Nyquist.




Screenshot - VSE2 EQ
Screenshot - Example of EQ Cramping
It makes no sense to say you’re not good at it. It’s like saying, “I’m not good at being a monk.” You are either living as a monk or you’re not.
  Member 31.05.2020 1 241
+237
Actually, your analysis is wrong. Seems there is a misunderstanding of the definition of "cramping". In your screenshot of "VSE2 EQ", you're right on the upper part - the bell curve is nice, symmetrical and analog-like. BUT: near Nyquist, there is a steep, shrap drop downwards, i'm sure you can see it. This also falls under the same category: cramping.

Don't believe me? Compare for yourself with Fabfilter Pro-Q, Kichhoff EQ or CraveEQ - this is how a properly "decrapmed" analog-style EQ looks like - you will not see such a steep, shrap drop near the Nyquist freq. Needless to say real analog EQs dont have this "drop" either
Keith Don't Go!
  Member 29.11.2020 29 2556
+2632

near Nyquist, there is a steep, shrap drop downwards, i'm sure you can see it. This also falls under the same category: cramping.


That's anti aliasing filter. That's basically a steep LPF to reduce aliasing. It's common design. Every plugin that produce distortion/harmonics that has OS feature will have anti-aliasing filter.

Pro-Q3 doesnt have anti-aliasing filter. It doesnt produce distortion/harmonics, it doesnt need one. Same goes to those other 2 EQ. The plugin however will get the same treatment by DAW at the end of FX chain after the processing to accommodate the working sample rate. Plugin that produces distortion/harmonics (with OS feature) will have built-in anti-aliasing filter to avoid the aliasing been carried out to the next plugin in the chain.

This is a mastering grade EQ from a developer known for doing top class gears and plugins. If they made this kind of rookie mistake, it will already be pointed out after 5 seconds it posted on Gearspace.
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  Member 23.02.2016 1 204
+52
Well, I guess both of you are correct. While there is a different reason for the warping of the bell near Nyquist (steep anti-aliasing lowpass filter), it still manifests as some form of cramping (or warping) of the bell symmetry).

So, anti-aliasing measures, while counteracting aliasing artefacts, seem to introduce their own unwanted side-effects. The trick is to keep these side-effects at a minimum. I don't think I would ever do such considerable bell boosts near Nyquist anyway, so I'm not bothered by the slight asymmetry in this range.
  Member 29.11.2020 29 2556
+2632
that slight little asymmetrical warping can be reduced further with higher oversampling rate. Most good dev includes up to 16x for that reason but like you said, it wont bother me much as 1-2% warping. The aliasing is a bigger concern.
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  Member 31.05.2020 1 241
+237
Who cares what it its? It's a sharp edged filtercurve that's infact cramping an original, natural analog-like curve and does not belong there if you wanna make it right. Again: an analog EQ does *not* do that!

An speaking of sharp edged digital EQ's: they trend to create a harsh sound the more steep you get the curve
Keith Don't Go!
  Member 29.11.2020 29 2556
+2632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvj1L27tX-g

see the steep filter ? he's testing Analog EQ there. all 6 of them. lol

SPL PQ - 10k Mastering Grade EQ on PD = Screenshot

lol

anti-aliasing filter idea comes from sample-rate filter, also the same thing from AD converter. It's how DSP works. All Pro-Q, Crave EQ everything will get the same cut from DAW at the end of FX chain because that's how it works. That's how downsampling works too, steep cut at the end.

Ask your nearest engineer, or maybe DSP coders or anyone that have a clue whats going on. or simply start a thread at AudioSex, there are better people that can explain it for you there.
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  Member 2.11.2017 1 77
+80
tl;dr

No cramping at all, just an anti-aliasing filter like it should be when you want to model analog stuff.
Do your homework, Vertigo clearly did.
  Member 9.12.2023 4 99
+111
this eq is clearly arranged and thank god not equipped with 1000 unnecessary functions.you have everything directly under control, sounds very nice and musical and even the minimal turning of the knob causes musical changes in the signal (proof that the work here was very accurate and precise).with harmonics control you can conjure up wonderful sounds. a wonderful eq.

Vertigo Sound VSE 2 Hardware Versus Plugin
https://youtu.be/EbNcqi4jydI
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