Nando Scheffer 2tune Your Drums Max for live device (Win + Mac)

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I immediately introduced it into Ableton Live and tested it, but unfortunately, the product did not allow me to manage the tuning of the drums perfectly.

Many people misunderstand, and even top professional producers struggle to make beats without knowing the correct concept, sometimes getting it wrong all the way through, leaving many songs with problems in the low frequencies.

Unlike other instruments, the tuning of percussion sounds such as drums and percussion is different from other instruments, in most cases, the location of the loudest peak when viewed on an analyzer is not the correct pitch for that sample. The correct pitch is certainly there when viewed with an analyzer, but it is often buried in the surroundings.

For example, if we break down a live drum snare into its individual elements, there are two types of closed mics, top and bottom, and several types of elements such as overhead and room. If you listen to the top of the close alone, of course the correct pitch is very easy to determine, but when mixed with other elements, peaks of various frequencies are mixed together, making it difficult to mechanically extract the correct pitch with an analyzer or other means.

Tests have shown that this product also cannot sense the correct pitch that should be extracted.

The most correct way to tune a drum should start with knowing what the correct pitch is and what type of (non-pitch related) peaks exist around it. Then, with an ear trained by ear training and an oscillator or synth that produces a simple sine wave, the correct pitch is extracted. In this way, correctly placed drums can be simple but very convincing and pleasant to listen to all the time.

quote by ZZAudioI immediately introduced it into Ableton Live and tested it, but unfortunately, the product did not allow me to manage the tuning of the drums perfectly.

Many people misunderstand, and even top professional producers struggle to make beats without knowing the correct concept, sometimes getting it wrong all the way through, leaving many songs with problems in the low frequencies.

Unlike other instruments, the tuning of percussion sounds such as drums and percussion is different from other instruments, in most cases, the location of the loudest peak when viewed on an analyzer is not the correct pitch for that sample. The correct pitch is certainly there when viewed with an analyzer, but it is often buried in the surroundings.

For example, if we break down a live drum snare into its individual elements, there are two types of closed mics, top and bottom, and several types of elements such as overhead and room. If you listen to the top of the close alone, of course the correct pitch is very easy to determine, but when mixed with other elements, peaks of various frequencies are mixed together, making it difficult to mechanically extract the correct pitch with an analyzer or other means.

Tests have shown that this product also cannot sense the correct pitch that should be extracted.

The most correct way to tune a drum should start with knowing what the correct pitch is and what type of (non-pitch related) peaks exist around it. Then, with an ear trained by ear training and an oscillator or synth that produces a simple sine wave, the correct pitch is extracted. In this way, correctly placed drums can be simple but very convincing and pleasant to listen to all the time.

yes it's not the best out there, I've also tested it against a sine wave notes and sometimes it's tuning is off by a semitone. a much better option for tuning drums is Knocktonal by Dj swivel because you can see the fundamental in the spectrum analizer and tune the drum very accurately

quote by ZZAudioI have also tested Dj Swivel's Knocktonal, which in the end only mechanically detects the "acoustical" frequency elements.

A "musical" pitch of drums and percussions is often different from the peaks that are noticeable in the analyzer. The exception is a simple 808 kick, which has no pitch-down modulation, but many other samples do not have a noticeable "musical" pitch as simple as that of the 808.

Because the pitch of drums and percussion is not a part of the attack, which has a big energy, but in the sustain. The energy in the attack is very huge, but it is the noise elements of the "acoustical" peaks, but the "musical" pitch is buried.

The above explanation can be understood by analyzing a snare drum sample without snappy. And you will also understand that with snappy snare drums, the "musical" pitch is not clearly displayed in the analyzer (in fact, it is displayed, but it is buried by the surrounding higher energy "acoustical" peaks).

I am by no means saying that Knocktonal is a useless tool, but if you guys don't understand the difference between "acoustical" elements and the "musical" pitch, (in my experience) it won't be of much use to you.

true. some percussions doesnt have that musical pitch you mentioned and are harder to tune then kicks.
Knocktonal has a nice feature - you can lower the attack of the sample and raise other parts of it. Link

another method I use sometimes is tuning by ear
I pitch up the sample by 12 or 24 semitones, sometimes the pitch is audible enought to detect