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Cinesamples CineWinds CORE v1.4.KONTAKT-Minified screenshot
P2P | 10 June 2021 | 1.42 GB
Cinesamples is proud to present the CineWinds CORE Library, the next generation orchestra woodwind library recorded on the legendary SONY Pictures Scoring stage in Los Angeles and mixed by chief engineer Dennis Sands (Avengers, Shawshank Redemption, Back to the Future, Forrest Gump, American Beauty). The CineWinds CORE library covers the basics of the orchestra woodwind section, and as always, we focus on simplicity and unrivaled record quality. Each instrument has been carefully selected to capture the nuances and details, while maintaining ease of use for the composer. The CineWinds CORE library provides a solid foundation of expressive woodwinds for our templates.

— — — — — MINIFIED INFO — — — — — — —

Since I like to have many Kontakt libraries but don't want to fill my hard drives with them, I minify them, keeping only what I realy need from them.

— Library size is 1.7GB (from ~ 16.1GB)
— All samples are 16bit
— Only the "Close" mic exists



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  Member 1.06.2021 20
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Good job!!! Really appreciated, I tried to do that with the new Audiobro libraries but I was not successful
  Member 10.04.2013 53
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Super !!
Merci
  Member 17.01.2014 1 248
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Thank you very much, hidera!! Amazing job!!

CineWinds Pro would be an incredible minified addition!!! Can you think about it, please?

Best
  Member 4.12.2012 38
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Can you share the process used to make this compression ? Is it within kontakts batch re-save? I think most people have these libraries and it would be helpful to share the method used.

Thanks for your efforts
  Resident 28.06.2013 685
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the main part of the process - in terms of reducing the size - is to delete all of the microphone positions except the close mic. that's huge. and frankly you're not losing much because you can use reverbs to replace the other mic positions (for the most part).
  Member 13.01.2018 4
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what reverb do you use for orchestral libraries
  Resident 28.06.2013 685
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depends on what you are trying t achieve. personally, i like lexicon. but there are reverbs available that allow you to place each track in a specific position in the soundfield that i think might be very good for orchestral sounds.
  Member 4.12.2012 38
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Just wandering if there is a hack to compress all libraries for personal use. The initial lite versions made mention of recoding at 16bit. I've always hated the bloated libraries that sell size as a feature rather than l an inconvenience. Spitfire libraries are the absolute worst offenders in this sense. The reduction seen in previous posts is staggering and would be great to have to not use computer farms. Sorry for the post that isn't directly related to the release. I just can't seem to find any info and I suspect it require use of KD kontakt despite using legal libraries. It's not a topic I can ask conventional sources.
  Resident 27.05.2020 29 445
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Unfortunately there isn't. You have to do one at a time, and it takes quite some time to get each one done.
  Resident 16.03.2013 794
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Dude, there aren't enough words to thank you!
Para-para-parAUDIOZ/SEX! Whoa-oh-oh oh-oooh oh-oh-oh...
  Resident 29.09.2012 5 1197
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Just what I was looking for. Thanks a lot
Dream Trance
  Resident 23.04.2017 2 611
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I love this new trend of shrinking these bloated KONTAKT libraries!! Thx to you hidera and rollerball for starting the 'movement'!
  Member 13.11.2018 2 54
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The effort is great but people actually use different orchestral lib.s specifically for their room sound differences.

Spitfire and Cine series are actually preferred specifically for their room sound. Not the ambient etc. but their default sound to be more clear...using only close mic.s then adding reverb can work for some lib.s (Light and Sound Chamber Strings v2 could be a good example) but for these I don't think so.
  Member 17.01.2014 1 248
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I agree with you, merty. Cinesamples BR & STR need the Dennis Sand Mix to get the extraordinary sound of the room and the blockbuster appeal of the library.

However, with the WW this close version works very good, you don't need the room so much and as soloists are beautiful.

Best
  Resident 16.10.2010 63
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Many thanks for this share P2P. I also applaud this "shrink" movement.
... and thanks Makaveli for the zippy links. they're always the fastest for me.

with regard to the question about orchestral reverbs, try and demo the Liquidsonics reverbs. Seventh Heaven (Bricasti emulation) and Cinematic Rooms.
  Member 14.06.2021 64
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quote by BadOrangeCan you share the process used to make this compression ? Is it within kontakts batch re-save? I think most people have these libraries and it would be helpful to share the method used.

Well, there are many steps to the procedure.
Some, depends on the library and some are standard.
- I usually extract the .wav files doing a "Collect samples/Batch compress" from Kontakt.
- I check the instrument groups to see what samples are used for what mics. This can be difficult or not, depending on the library's developer.
- I move all the samples that I don't need to another directory.
- Then I convert the remaining, useful ones with a program of mine (KataLib) to 16bit, and if they're at a sampling frequency higher than 48khz, to their half (The conversion from 96khz to 44.1khz is best avoided because it produces mathematical errors. Halving is much better).
- After that I use some python scripting to copy empty samples with the names of the ones I didn't use, next to the converted ones.
- Some libraries require editing of their scripts, to add/change some GUI elements and/or functionality.
- Another tedious step is to open every single instrument/multi and resave it with new mic and reverb settings.
- I then resave the library from Kontakt using the "Collect samples/Batch compress" option.
  Member 14.06.2021 64
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quote by BadOrangeJust wandering if there is a hack to compress all libraries for personal use. The initial lite versions made mention of recoding at 16bit. I've always hated the bloated libraries that sell size as a feature rather than l an inconvenience. Spitfire libraries are the absolute worst offenders in this sense. The reduction seen in previous posts is staggering and would be great to have to not use computer farms. Sorry for the post that isn't directly related to the release. I just can't seem to find any info and I suspect it require use of KD kontakt despite using legal libraries. It's not a topic I can ask conventional sources.

Unfortunately, you can't just compress all libraries.
You have to do it one at a time, and for some is not an easy thing to do..

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