Native Instruments KINETIC METAL KONTAKT

angie,

It depends in how many idiots make a premium account because of stolen stuff uploaders provide.(normally none of the uploaders ever bought any of the stuff they upload..they just make profit from others work and that way break 1st scene rule "Middle finger to everyone who make money with our releases)

Cataly5t

I downloaded this 1.5 gig file in a little over an hour with my premium account. Every site uses Uploaded.net, this was discussed many many times already. Mirrors are allowed on this post as well.

Free means free and not to pay for premium accounts. At the end of day why should I pay the guy who owns uploading hes is making more money than sunny could ever dream of and its all mainly from illegal files.

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Actually Lukehh ever think that maybe you just have a faster internet connection, I've downloaded from Putlocker and the speed wasn't that much faster if at all. I usually max out my connection with Uploaded.net. Anyway I'm not in such a hurry, most people want fast links so they can download even more stuff than they would ever possibly use in a lifetime because they're greedy and they convince themselves that everyone in the world has to pursue avenues to fulfill this need. Plus I don't understand what the big deal is, you set up jDownloader and leave it overnight...how much stuff do you guys have to download in a day to feel whole? If everyone would move to a primary like Putlocker none of these sites would exist. You also seem to SERIOUSLY underestimate the amount of work that goes into uploading and maintaining links. Ask thisis theend who shared a documentary and spent a day uploading it to Putlocker. Links went down immediately and I had to send the backup privately to members to keep it from going down again. Then I had to ask a contributor to mirror in order to even keep the post alive for more than a day and the upload was about 3.40 gigs which was mirrored to 4 disparate lockers. Now imagine it going down another million times and having to be reupped or imagine if the file is a Kontakt library that is around 20-30 gigs. Anyone here want to volunteer to do this all day every day for no money? Didn't think so. The bottom line is people can talk about this until they're blue in the face but it won't change so you can keep getting mad about it day in and day out (which causes an uncomfortable environment for everyone) or you can just accept that this is the way it is everywhere. We often have members that post faster mirrors (just like other sites do) and when they do you can get it lightning quick because you're all in such a rush somewhere. Free means you're not paying for the software which is the case if I'm not mistaken. And the argument of having to pay Uploaded goes out the window when guess what?...people also pay for Usenet since it's not free either. This is going to blow your mind but a lot of services that are centralized actually have to pay for their infrastructure...crazy I know. In the end there are a plethora of ways to get files so feel free to utilize the ones that suit you best.

Cataly5t

most people want fast links so they can download even more stuff than they would ever possibly use in a lifetime because they're greedy and they convince themselves that everyone in the world has to pursue avenues to fulfill this need

That's the point. On the other hand, i see people here don't believe at all in democracy. Or have you forgot that this was voted in a poll and users for the most part voted uploaded.net as the main upload server ?. Are you suggesting then, that all those users are getting some money from it ?

C'MON!!!

If you don't like it (as it seems to be), either you upload yourselves the thing in a mirror of your choice for other users (just to keep coherence with your thoughts) or go to torrent (as someone has mentioned) or to other sites that use the links you like ... it's easy, isn't it ?. And if you want the thing even much faster then you go buy it!.

As a good friend of mine use to say: "fortunately we die someday". You should be happy to get all this without spending any money on it, but you're never satisfied. You always want more and more, faster, faster ... Why ?. You did not had time to un-compress the last download that you start downloading another one while asking for a new one at the same time, and this ad infinitum. Calm down guys, and enjoy the things you have today, because nobody knows if you'll be here tomorrow ... even not the next minute.

Kind regards!

lukehh

It depends in how many idiots make a premium account because of stolen stuff uploaders provide.(normally none of the uploaders ever bought any of the stuff they upload..they just make profit from others work and that way break 1st scene rule "Middle finger to everyone who make money with our releases)

There's more in this world then some audio warez 90 percent of the Internet does not care about. I use my Alldebrid for any digital stuff, and on the long run it would be incredible time consuming to rely on free hosts only. So I gladly pay my 5 Euros to have hassle free downloads 24/7.

Without money makers, most of the stuff wouldn't even be here.

angie

But HOW much money? Just curious... tongue

Selling drugs is a good way making much money fast, too.

fraggle83

That's the point. On the other hand, i see people here don't believe at all in democracy. Or have you forgot that this was voted in a poll and users for the most part voted uploaded.net as the main upload server ?. Are you suggesting then, that all those users are getting some money from it ?

I absolutely believe in democracy. But the poll was much more that kind of democracy like old not actually existing political systems like USSR or the German Demokratic Republic offered their citizens. Let them vote just free out of a bunch of parties. And if you take a closer view to these parties finally all of them are the same kind of shit! The poll you mentioned was nothing but a pseudo poll..you only had the choice between pest and cholera.

And Cataly5t..Buddy..of cause you are right when you say its not important if you download something in 10 minutes or 1 hour. Its more about the whole repressions with captchars, waiting 1 minute to continue etc. Would be no problem if we free users would be able just to add download links to jDownloader in the morning, go to work and in the evening everything would be fine. But that doesnt work on shitty sharehosters like uploaded, rapidgator...Ahh, just take all the services from the "so called" poll a few weeks ago! And by the way..ever tried downloading a 20GB sample library with 50kb/sec? Forget it..and I bet just before you start downloading the last part of it, links will be deleted and then you are about to throw your computer out of the window and also your cardiovascular system will suffer from it! So Sharehosters like PUTLOCKER can save lifes!

Funnily enough, the links provided in red from people complaining about uploaded (contrasting with has been claimed)
- are not faster (I just tried),
- ask for a capcha...
- and provide you with better service.. if you take a premium account ! They just call it 'abonnement express'.

Enough to wonder why this 'uploaded' bashing came for....

ZooMaxx

- are not faster (I just tried),
- ask for a capcha...

NO..thats not correct. Its not the sharehoster that ask for Captcha..its the "link protecting service"...and its much faster than doing downloads via uploaded or all the other crap as a free user! 600kb/sec vs 50kb/sec and waiting 5 min between each download compared to "wait 1hour till your next download" or even better "your daily download limit is reached (after downloading 1 file of 500MB) is a difference!

@dokx1...sad enough that most of the stuff wouldnt be here without the money option. I will never understand why some so called contributors each time when a new release is posted 3 minutes later provide mirror links with exactly the same sharehosters. Its so obvisious they just want to earn money from other peoples work! Most of them never upload anything new..when they upload its either old stuff or they just steal new releases to generate money! I also sometimes upload old stuff..as I have no connections to cracking groups I'm not able to provide new releases...but you will never see any upload I did using one of these uploaded, rapidgator etc. sharehosters. And the simple reason is my parents gave me something thats called fairness and morale! Hehe, OK..strange to write about morale at a warez site! But you know what I mean! Even if I wouldnt had a job and would upload tons of stuff just to make the time go by..It would never come into my mind to earn money with something like providing warez! And buddy be honest..if some of your friends would ask you to give them some of the stuff you downloaded here...would you ever say "No problem..but you have to pay for it!"

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Don't know for others. AFAIC, speed is totally the same. No difference. And capcha from the sharehoster service vs capcha from link protecting service is playing with words to me. Still a capcha.

Not that I mind, really. It is a minor hassle for what we get... I don't complain. Most of the time, when a file is big, only UL works for me. No interest in saying this.
If we get to have another access for big file with1fichie, I'll just applaude..

lukehh,
You make many good points, and I'm also a fan of the old motto 'Don't make money from warez'.
And I also don't like UL and didn't vote for them in the poll.
But after my experience with trying to make an original post here using PL I'm more convinced than ever that 'free' could never work in full scale for a place like this.
If you want a site like this, where everything is released through cyberlockers, there will always be money involved. Nobody can or will do all this for free.
Even with the mirrors LV-426 posted here somebody's making money from warez. There's ads and/or popups on both that decrypt page and DL site you used.
There's no way around this with cyberlockers, why can't you guys see that? They are running a business.

thisis theend,

All what you said is correct in these days. See, I'm an old guy..I still remember the beginning of sharing warez. Also the time when everything was only shared via FTP pubs...In these days noone cares about making money from warez...OK, a few did but there have been no sharehosters to make your business with warez..or it was very difficult by operating an own ftp and sell accounts. In these old days spreading warez worked very well. So that doesnt seem to be the problem! The problem today is, there is the possibility and warez is nothing but a form of business.

@Zoomax..Its not just playing with words. First point is, there is no need to use this link protection. Even with protected links I'm able to solve the captcha once, copy all links to my jDownloader, go to work and in the evening everything will be finished. At uploaded when you come back in the evening you will have 1 file..and the other missing files will still wait for you to solve the captcha!

Second point...dont compare speed of premium uploaded account with free account of Putlocker or other services that provide fine "free conditions". You should compare free uploaded with free other sharehosters accounts.

Of cause all these sharehosters also provide Premium services..but the difference is how they treat users who dont want to buy a premium account! And here uploaded is nothing but a piece of shit! And this is the only reason why most of the so called contributors here use them..because the harrasment forces users to buy their shit services!

lukehh
all these sharehosters also provide Premium services..but the difference is how they treat users who dont want to buy a premium account! And here uploaded is nothing but a piece of shit!

Yeah, this is also why I don't like them.

The thing I would've done here is to make a rule that said that even for those 'exclusive' releases all mirrors would be allowed after some waiting time, maybe 3-4 days
Then the original poster could still get their money, and everybody else would get a fair chance to share some links that were nicer for guys without premium accounts.
I actually think it would be a real eye opener for many to see how hard it would be to get such 'free' links for everything, and how tough it would be to keep those links alive.
Especially when we talk about stuff that is like 5-10 GB and bigger.
And you would probably have to set very strict rules about comments and start banning members who broke them, or else I suspect that every other thread here would soon become just a long list of dead links and "xx plzzz!!!" (insert various cyberlocker names instead of xx).

Anyway you look at it, this sharing through cyberlockers business is a tricky balancing act, and you can never make everybody happy.
I don't envy the guys doing all the work to keep this fine site running.

youn dont get it?
pulocker stores the files only for 14days, zippy 30 days, mediafire is deleting when files gets scanned via their apps.
UL works ok here got 70kb/s, rapidgator has 50kb/s and Horsemen always provides enough mirrors.

@kooka you know that somebody has to pay for the products we pirate here?
but thats typically - everything fast, free ...
and honestly your lux or whatever download links stay not long enough online as UL or the other ones does.

i used my UL 48 premium coupon to download it.
people downloading and downloading and in the end they delete or just collect - just like urs/u-he said!

And I've been on other sites that had polls for filehosters...guess what Putlocker wasn't on the list? Why are you not complaining there about the poll being fixed? Especially lately we've had a lot of people pitching in to post faster mirrors for you guys including Parcell, LV-426 and others who have been providing these alternatives on many posts. In terms of CAPTCHAS there are alternatives such as purchasing an Uploaded.net account, sharing an account with someone else, buying a cheap AllDebrid account, creating private encrypted networks between friends or using mirrors such as HulkFile or BitShare which are faster for free users. And by the way HulkFile was available in this post thanks to Horsemen. And the irony is that this is so unimportant yet people spend all their energy on it. How many of you have applied this pressure to your government where it can actually make some kind of tangible difference in more important areas than the downloading of warez? I think that's a much more worthy endeavor.

lukehh
I remember those days too but the reason it worked was because there were way less people involved and there was no maintenance such as keeping links alive. People would have to have something to share to get on the really good FTP servers. Those days are still here, you just have to use a different method for getting your files: FTPs still exist, Usenet still exists, BitTorrent still exists, etc. However I will remind you that you pay for your downloads in other ways. To get on an FTP service you have to offer credits because otherwise there would be no shortage of people downloading from there. BitTorrent (particularly private sites) you pay for with ratios and Usenet you pay for with cash.

Thanks to fraggle83, dokx1, ZooMaxx, thisis theend and ArticStorm for being the voice of reason. And thanks LV-426 for all the awesome mirrors.

Articstorm,

Yes...SOMEONE payed for the stuff..But I bet in about 1% of all cases..its the person that uploaded the stuff and post it here! In 99% someone else payed for it. And btw the normal case is that some suppliers from stores or anybody else who payed for it gives the stuff to cracking groups and they release it via their couriers. The average contributor here at audioz is nothing more than someone who is doing business with someone elses work!

And for Putlocker and Zippyshare etc. They dont keep the files for 20 days...they keep them forever if at least 1 person from time to time download them!

But after all I'm really tired of this discussion! For me everybody who is making money from warez is nothing but an lazy asshole with a lag in ethical values!

Says the man that spends all day downloading other people's work for free...sometimes work that took more than a year to create. I smell double-standards. At least the uploaders contribute by making it available to everyone, what are you contributing when you download? And you never make mention of the fact that Horsemen offered a HulkFile link where you can get it fast so of all posts to complain about this certainly wasn't the one.

PS this package was purchased legitimately and I know this for a fact.

Articstorm

just like urs/u-he said!

Hey Articstorm, could you point me at this comment from urs ? I would like to read it. Thanks in advance!

And what to say to you Cataly5t! ... You know what ?, for the first time i felt really your calmness and voice of reason in your writing. So, thanks a lot to you too, my friend . And of course, thanks a lot also to LV-426 for not just talk but to act also accordingly to his/her own words/thoughts (which honors you - maybe time has come to start recovering hope in the human kind).

Cataly5t,

Whats the problem guy? I'm downloading OK..but I'm not selling warez! Providing stuff that I havent paid a cent for by uploading it to a sharehoster that provides adaequate service only to paying users to force someone to become a premium menber is nearly identically to selling warez directly. And you absolutely know that only a few contributors here provide stuff they payed for! Cataly5t I really cant understand why you pretend this behaviour as I know you understand the sense of helping others and dont ask for any kind of refund!

Maybe this package was purchased by Horsemen (and I really like this guy)..but what about some others? They publish mirror links for every release with exactly the same sharehosters like the original post had...and they do so about 5 min after the thread has been started. These guys are stealing money from the guy that originally provided the release!

lukehh
Even sites that link to Putlocker usually place an add that generates income for them so you're still paying in some way. Is it that crazy to have to buy a premium account, it's not that expensive considering what you get. An AllDebrid account is a few dollars for god's sake and you download a lot of expensive software with it. FTPs are free of cost but not exactly free (credits), Torrents are free but not trackers, private encrypted networks are free and some mirrors people post are free. Really all links are free...what costs money is getting things faster and having access to a hoster with a wide range of data that is hosted. You have options but you choose to complain about the one you don't have and you're often still offered links that allow you to download fast. The old complaint about money from warez can't work when you release to the mainstream public because of the scale of it all particularly in this arena where links go down a million times a day and software is purchased. Trackers cost money to maintain, hosting costs money, software costs money, bandwidth costs money, etc. It's free for you to download but it's not free to make it happen. I'll tell you what: try being an uploader for a week and come back and tell me that you would do that consistently. You have absolutely no idea the effort that goes into it.

My problem with this constant debate is that it's not considerate to SAiNT who could be making a lot of money off this project but isn't, it's not considerate to our uploaders, it's not considerate to me who isn't getting a penny here but has to listen to people complain all day, it's not considerate to other members that appreciate this place, it makes things tense and the most important thing is that it's not going to change so all that energy wasted...for nothing. You can't control Sunny but you can control how you deal with him or how you get your files. Pick and choose your battles my friend or you'll find you wasted your whole life and didn't make headway in things within the realm of your control.

Cataly5t

it makes things tense and the most important thing is that it's not going to change so all that energy gone...for nothing.

So true so sad it is! But you are right..I'm also tired of this discussion. I think you understand my point of view, even its outdated! But as we germans say..."Einen alten Baum verpflanzt man nicht" .. and so I fear I will not change my mind! But I also can accept your point of view because I know you are open minded and have a great heart..and after all never ask for any refund! Just like I always try to akt!

lukehh
And for Putlocker and Zippyshare etc. They dont keep the files for 20 days...they keep them forever if at least 1 person from time to time download them!

I tried to use PL as original links for my upload.
They didn't even last one full day.
If PL and ZS would replace UL you would see a lot of those links get reported and go down pretty fast. And nobody's gonna spend all their free time and all their bandwidth repacking and reposting all the stuff you see here, without getting anything in return.
So unless your ultimate wish is to see this whole site shut down, you just have to accept that money is a part of the deal.
Once again: If you want all this stuff shared through cyberlockers,
there is no other way.
I may not like it, you may not like it, but these are the cold hard facts.

lukehh
I also understand where you're coming from so I hope you understand that. We do what we can at the moment to balance everyone's needs and it is a really difficult task. Maybe at some point in the future we can even make some headway to make everyone happier. We always relook at things within the realm of our possibility to make improvements to the site as it is a work in progress. Thanks for the kind words mate, they really warm the heart. I hope you have a good weekend.

thisis theend
Spot on mate. Enjoy your weekend and then tell me about it so I can live vicariously through you.

thisis theend

If PL and ZS would replace UL you would see a lot of those links get reported and go down pretty fast.

Just take a look at my last upload

ZERO-G George Clinton Library WAV SAMPLES

My putlocker links are gone..but also take a look to JuanP mirror links (uploaded, rapidgator) he did 2 days after my post..they are also gone! It not depends on the sharehoster..it depends on the fact if some asshole reports the links..like in that case. All my other uploads at putlocker and Zippyshare from the same day are still alive! Try them if you dont believe!

lukehh,
Yes, but the problem is that if everything was posted on PL and ZS instead of UL, you would get loads of dead stuff very fast cause nobody would have the same motivation to add all the backups and mirrors as the contributors are doing now.
And like dokx1 said, without money makers, most of the stuff wouldn't even be here in the first place.
So this site would go down if you would remove the money element. It's sad but true, this is now an inevitable part when it comes to public sites with cyberlockers.
And I don't think you can say that you're totally against making money from warez if you're using any cyberlocker. Cause that means some company profits from this, and I really don't understand why that would be more OK than if some individual guy is doing it?

Cataly5t,
I'm doing nothing spectacular this weekend, mate. Just staying in from that cold dark weather you'd like to have, trying to write some music.

I am on Win XP (I know, some will frown but I find them reliable and don't like W7+W8) so I cannot install this pack which I really want (may The Force bless u Horsemen!) so I unpack everything with 7zip etc and import the library into my Kontakt 5.1.0.606. Everything seems perfect...but. When I try to use it I get this odious message "This patch was generated by a newer version blah, blah". So, I download the Kontakt 5.2.1 R2R upgrade, try to install it and get the message that I need at least Windows 7!
WTF!!! This is becoming a total frustration (I'll end up mental and/or paying a shrink)

Does anyone have some clever ideas? Thanks!
(hint: I do not want to install win7)